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first phone call & thoughts on openness


So yesterday we had our first phone call with J, the expectant mother that chose us. It went ok.  I say ok, because I think it went well, but I’m too terrified to get let myself get too excited.  J seems like a warm and caring mother.  She is well spoken, sounds very geniune and has maturity. I have been thinking a bit about J and our call with her and openness.  What J is asking for, pictures and updates, is exactly where we started at.  On the phone she had mentioned/asked about how involved we wanted to be in the pregnancy.  I don’t think she really got a clear answer…probably because it is not something we really gave a lot of thought to.  The more I read and learn about adoption, and as previous situations came up where EMs were wanting more openness, we had began to open ourselves to being more open. (that’s a lot of use of the word open)  But that was driven more by the expectant mother and not us.  Honestly I am not sure what I want if it were all my decision (which I know it is not my decision) with no one else to consider.  I feel like J would be about as open as we would ask, but I also worry that it would be for the wrong reasons… I feel like she’d do as much as we ask of her out of fear we’d change our minds rather than out of what she wants and feels would be best for her.  Repeated our agency has told us that she often expresses fear that we will change our minds about the adoption….and they repeated reassure her that that won’t happen. As far as being involved with the pregnancy, I see it as J’s pregnancy.  She needs to do what is best for her.  I never really imagined that I or we would be going to Dr’s appointments or really involved much at all during pregnancy.  I have no expectations for the hospital…I want her to do what is right for her and her children and not to worry about how we feel about it.  Her health, both physical and mental, comes first.  And also the baby’s needs and the needs of her other children.  We’re at the bottom of the list of people to be concerned about. DH and I have each other and a huge support system, we’ll be able to roll with whatever punches come our way.  It seems like J does not have that kind of support, so we want to be sure that we do not add any pressure to her life.  I want her needs to drive the relationship, not our selfish desires.  If I alone were left to decide everything, I think this is what I would want: I think I might want to meet J at least once during the pregnancy well before the birth, but this is not something I would push for.  I really feel strongly about honoring J’s feelings and needs.  I would hope that the meeting could include our household…DH, DD, and possibly MIL.  I would hope that seeing our family would give her comfort in her decision. I would be open to visiting her more during the pregnancy if that would be something she wanted or needed.  As for the hospital, I would like for us to be able to be at the hospital during the birth, even if J would prefer not to see us or talk to us…even if she would choose not to let us see or hold the baby until placement.  From that minimum, we would want her to decide how we would all interact at the hospital.  I would also be open to being much more involved at the hospital…but only to the point she is comfortable with it. Has anyone ever worried about the mother they are matched with agreeing to things she wasn’t necessarily comfortable with because she was afraid that the adoptive parents would change their minds? I realize that we have lots of time to figure this out.  I’m feeling that J is comfortable with a semi-open adoption… but I wonder what she would want if it were only herself to worry about?  Would being too open be hard for her, or would she like to be more open but is afraid to ask?  I also worry that and not want her to take our lack of involvement as that we don’t care or have waivered in our desire to adopt her child.  Honestly we just want to do what is best for her.  Thoughts anyone

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As you get to know each other better, both of you will get a better feeling on how open you want things to be.  I kind of compare it to dating.  The first date is a little uncomfortable as you are just getting to know each other.  As you get to know one another better, you may both feel more comfortable with more openess or maybe less.  Like any others, these relationships develop over time and can’t be labeled or rushed.  Hopefully, J will remain in your lives and become an important member of your family.  Only time will tell.  Congratulations!

Posted by Joanne0911 on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:10pm

Do what you feel is best.  Make sure you keep boundaries. We didn’t and our birthmom wanted letters and pictures. We ended up being her support system. It was especially difficult because she did drugs unknown to us. She always wanted reassurance that we would still want our son. It was extremely frustrating it was because of the drugs.She ended up wanting more than she agreed to and became very demanding and wanted all the attention. Even after the waiting period was over she was trying to control everything.

Best of luck

Posted by Happygirl2012 on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:18pm

I think openness is usually best for the adopted child in the long run and can also make it easier on the emom/birth mom. It is nice if it can be ever evolving and not so defined becuase one or both of you may change your minds or adjust frequency throughout. For example our childrens birth mother visisted a lot the first few months becuase it was such a hard time, now we just try and get together about once a month and it is very casual… like hey I am going to be by the mall today at noon, do you guys want to meat up and it works about about 50/50… in time our reltionship with them is similar to a cousin relationship. There are sometimes it is hard when the birth mothers are struggeling or depressed, but it passes… spening a lot of time together before the birth solidifies the relationship, makes it so they are very comfortable palcing becuase of trust and makes it easy to hang out after. I know there are circumstances where openess is not positve or helpful, but if it can be… great… go for it…

Posted by Private And Foster Mom on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:40pm

Our son’s BM’s main concern was that our son would hate her for placing him as he gets older. Our first conversation was more me telling her about our agency. We weren’t really looking to adopt again. My cousin worked with someone who asked if we could help. After speaking with her the first time, the agency called us 1 week later saying she wanted us to adopt her son. Throughout the process, she voiced her concerns several times about making sure he would not hate her. She was comforted by the fact that we already had 2 adopted children and we discussed how open we are with our girls about their adoptions.
I think the most important thing is to have open conversations. Ask her how she feels and tell her your main concern right now is what she feels most comfortable with. If there are specific things you want out of the relationship, don’t be afraid to ask or tell her. She will be a lot more comfortable if she feels that you are being open and honest. You also need to be honest with yourself about what you want and what you will be comfortable with. It is okay for you to look out for yourself and your family’s needs also. I liked the analogy that the relationship is like dating. The more you get to know each other, the more comfortable you both will feel.

Posted by momof3eaj on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:54pm

Sounds like J has a full plate to begin with.  It might make her feel easier if you told her exactly what you were feeling and thinking.  Just as you have told us. 
Sounds like you have thought about this long and hard and have a good heart.  She’ll hear that if you just tell her. 
We were separated by 8 states from out BM so we couldn’t visit prior to our son’s birth.  But we spoke often on the phone, primarily after her doctor’s appointments, and she sent us pictures from the ultrasounds.  She wanted to make it as much our pregnancy as it was hers.  Very thoughtful.  She also asked if we wanted to be in the room when she delivered, which floored me, but I was hoping she would ask.  So we were there before he was born, while he was born, and don’t plan on ever leaving him.  My husband even cut the cord. 
One thing that we decided to do was to store the baby’s cord blood.  We also explained to our BM that if God forbid something happened medically to her daughter, that this baby’s cord blood could potentially help her as there is a genetic link.  In my eyes, that would be the greatest gift to be able to give. 
As far as openness goes, just remember that you can’t go back.  J will probably be agreeable with starting slow—pictures and updates.  Then as the years go on, phone calls and/or visits.  If you are both on the same page.  Honestly, we were in contact by phone with our BM probably twice a month in the first year.  This has tapered off significantly and it’s because she is comfortable with how our son is doing.  But we do still send updates and pictures a few times a year.

Posted by MamaLion on Apr 19, 2012 at 5:04am

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